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#5 — Jordan — This has been a lot, catch me up on what's happening
Jordan
Thursday, March 13
[11
47 PM]
Alex
hey! alex from the closing party - you mentioned that rooftop bar in silverlake?
Jordan
omg hey!! yes - the one with the terrible dj but incredible views lol
Jordan
are you still in austin or back in ny?
Alex
flying back tomorrow afternoon. kinda sad to leave tbh, conference was actually fun for once
Jordan
i know right? usually these things are so dry
Alex
okay so real question - was that your actual opinion on parametric design or were you just being contrarian to make the panel interesting
Jordan
[Reacted '😂' to "okay so real question..."]
Jordan
little of both? but i do genuinely think people over-rely on algorithms when hand-sketching would be faster
Jordan
you seemed very personally offended by that take
Alex
because it's WRONG
Alex
but also because you said it with so much confidence i started doubting everything i know
Jordan
that's the secret - always be confident even when you're wrong
Jordan
works in hollywood too
Alex
you work in film right?
Jordan
yeah, mostly indie stuff. production design
Alex
that's actually so cool. anything i would have seen?
Jordan
probably not unless you go to a lot of festivals. we had one at sundance in january
Jordan
most of my work is making moody brooklyn apartments look even moodier on a $12 budget
Alex
feel like that's harder than big budget stuff honestly
Jordan
it is!! you have to be so creative
Jordan
what kind of architecture do you do?
Alex
residential mostly. a lot of renovations, some new builds in upstate NY
Alex
less glamorous than film for sure
Jordan
idk i think there's something really intimate about designing someone's actual home
Jordan
like they have to live in your decisions every day
Alex
never thought about it that way but yeah
Alex
also way more pressure when they hate your tile choice lol
Jordan
okay but do you have strong tile opinions because this might be a dealbreaker
Alex
[Sent a long voice message - 2:47]
Alex
sorry that was way too long but YES i have tile opinions
Jordan
i'm not listening to a 3 minute voice message at midnight but i respect the commitment
Alex
coward
Jordan
it's almost 3am for you!! go to sleep
Alex
you're not wrong
Alex
but also flight isn't til 2 so i can sleep on the plane
Jordan
fair. safe flight tomorrow!
Alex
thanks :)
Alex
we should grab coffee if you're ever in ny
Jordan
definitely
Saturday, March 15
[4
23 PM]
Jordan
how was the flight?
[6
15 PM]
Alex
hey! just seeing this. it was fine, worked through most of it
Alex
how's your weekend?
Jordan
pretty chill. went to this new coffee place in los feliz that had the most insane interior
Jordan
[Image: A coffee shop with curved walls, terrazzo floors, and sculptural lighting]
Jordan
immediately thought "alex would have opinions about this"
Alex
okay that lighting is doing way too much
Alex
but the terrazzo? perfect
Jordan
knew you'd have thoughts
Alex
it's literally my job to have thoughts about spaces
Jordan
what about thoughts on people
Alex
[Reacted '❤️' to "what about thoughts on people"]
Alex
much worse at that honestly
Jordan
same lol
Jordan
hey unrelated but i'm coming to ny for work in april
Jordan
would actually be down for that coffee if you're free
Alex
oh sick, when?
Jordan
15th-19th. meeting with some potential investors
Alex
investors for a film?
Jordan
yeah we're trying to get funding for this project i'm co-producing
Jordan
very tedious but necessary evil
Alex
i'm around! let's definitely do something
Jordan
🎉
Thursday, April 17
[10
52 AM]
Jordan
landed! forgot how much i love this city
Alex
welcome back to the best coast
Jordan
did you just "best coast" me
Jordan
california erasure
Alex
it's not erasure if it's the truth
Jordan
[Sent location - Balthazar]
Jordan
meeting here at 1 but free after. you around later?
Alex
can do 4? there's a project site i need to check on but should be done by then
Jordan
perfect. want to just meet there or
Alex
i'll come to you, i know a good spot nearby
Jordan
letting you pick the coffee place feels very vulnerable
Alex
as it should be
[4
47 PM]
Alex
running like 15 late, site visit went long
Jordan
all good! i'm the worst at being on time so no judgment
[5
31 PM]
Jordan
okay this place is actually incredible
Jordan
i forgive you for being late
Alex
told you!
Alex
also you weren't wrong about the moody brooklyn apartment thing
Alex
your work is really beautiful. showed my coworker the sundance film trailer
Jordan
oh you looked it up?
Alex
obviously
Alex
also you didn't mention you basically built that entire bathroom set from scratch??
Jordan
[Reacted '😅' to "also you didn't mention..."]
Jordan
it's not that impressive when you know how much of it is foam and paint
Alex
extremely impressive actually
Jordan
you're sweet
Jordan
this coffee might be too strong though i'm vibrating
Alex
that's just my magnetic personality
Jordan
[Reacted '🙄' to "that's just my magnetic personality"]
Jordan
should we get dinner? i'm weirdly not tired
Alex
yes but i'm buying
Jordan
absolutely not
Alex
you're visiting! i'm buying
Jordan
we can split
Alex
jordan
Jordan
alex
Alex
fine we'll split
Alex
(but i'm getting drinks)
[11
23 PM]
Jordan
that was really fun :)
Jordan
sorry i talked your ear off about the financing stuff. i know it's boring
Alex
not boring at all! and i had a great time
Alex
let me know if you're free tomorrow
Jordan
have breakfast with the investors but free after noon
Alex
want to do something? i can play hooky from the office
Jordan
you're a terrible influence
Alex
that's not a no
Jordan
definitely not a no
Friday, April 18
[2
15 PM]
Alex
[Image: The High Line on a sunny day]
Alex
meet me here?
Jordan
20 min!
[5
47 PM]
Jordan
[Image: Selfie of Jordan and Alex at sunset, the city skyline behind them]
Jordan
proof we can both be on time to things
Alex
proof you look good in golden hour
Jordan
stopping for that photo was YOUR idea
Alex
yeah because you look good in golden hour
Jordan
you can't just say things like that
Alex
why not
Jordan
because
Alex
because why
Jordan
because i fly back to LA tomorrow and you're being...
Alex
being what
Jordan
nothing. want to get dinner?
Alex
definitely
[12
03 AM]
Jordan
today was perfect
Alex
yeah it was
Alex
wish you weren't leaving tomorrow
Jordan
me too
Jordan
but i'll be back. we're doing more investor meetings in may
Alex
good
Jordan
good
Alex
jordan
Jordan
yeah?
Alex
nothing. safe flight tomorrow
Saturday, April 19
[6
47 AM]
Jordan
you're up early
Alex
couldn't really sleep
Alex
come back soon okay
Jordan
promise
[3
15 PM]
Jordan
made it back. already miss the bagels
Alex
just the bagels?
Jordan
and maybe one architect
Alex
[Reacted '❤️' to "and maybe one architect"]
Tuesday, April 22
[8
33 PM]
Jordan
[Image: A screenshot from a design website showing a residential project]
Jordan
this you??
Alex
oh shit yeah that's one of mine
Alex
how did you find that
Jordan
might have been looking at your firm's website
Jordan
you know. for architecture reasons
Alex
architecture reasons
Alex
what kind of architecture reasons
Jordan
the kind where i miss talking to you and wanted to see your work
Alex
that's really sweet actually
Alex
i've been thinking about you too
Jordan
yeah?
Alex
yeah
Alex
a lot actually
Jordan
wish i was there
Alex
when are you coming back
Jordan
may 12th-15th
Alex
that's so far away
Jordan
i know
Jordan
we could facetime?
Alex
yes
Alex
now?
Jordan
give me 20. just got home and look like a disaster
Alex
doubt that
Thursday, April 24
[11
47 PM]
Jordan
you still up?
[11
52 PM]
Alex
yeah what's up
Jordan
just wanted to hear your voice but you're probably busy
Alex
never too busy for you
Alex
calling now
Monday, April 28
[9
15 AM]
Jordan
question
Alex
answer
Jordan
what is this?
Alex
what is what
Jordan
us. this.
Alex
i don't know
Alex
what do you want it to be?
Jordan
i'm not trying to put pressure on anything
Jordan
just. i like you a lot
Alex
i like you a lot too
Jordan
but you're there and i'm here
Alex
yeah
Alex
we can figure it out though right?
Jordan
yeah
Jordan
sorry if that was weird to bring up over text
Alex
not weird at all
Alex
actually been wanting to talk about it
Alex
i just didn't want to be too much
Jordan
you could never be too much
Saturday, May 10
[2
33 PM]
Jordan
land tomorrow at 4!
Alex
can't wait
Alex
staying in the same hotel?
Jordan
yeah, the one in soho
Alex
i have a thought
Jordan
i'm listening
Alex
what if you stayed with me instead
Alex
i have a guest room if you want space
Alex
but also like. you don't have to use it
Jordan
alex torres are you propositioning me
Alex
maybe
Alex
too much?
Jordan
not too much at all
Jordan
yes. i'd love to
Alex
yeah?
Jordan
yeah :)
Sunday, May 11
[4
22 PM]
Jordan
just landed!
Alex
heading to you now
Alex
got held up with something but 45 min max
Jordan
all good! i'll grab coffee
[5
47 PM]
Alex
i'm so sorry
Alex
still dealing with this thing
Jordan
what's wrong?
Alex
just. an ex thing. long story
Alex
i'll explain when i see you
Jordan
oh
Jordan
do you need me to just go to the hotel? i don't want to make anything complicated
Alex
no god no please don't
Alex
i want you here
Alex
just bad timing. i'll be there soon i promise
Jordan
okay
Jordan
take your time
[7
15 PM]
Alex
i'm the worst
Alex
just leaving now
Jordan
it's fine! really
Jordan
should i just meet you at yours?
Alex
yes
Alex
245 Eldridge St, apartment 4B
Alex
i'll explain everything i promise
[11
38 PM]
Jordan
hey
Jordan
tonight was...
Jordan
are you okay?
[11
52 PM]
Alex
yeah. sorry about all that
Alex
my ex just showed up unannounced and it became this whole thing
Jordan
do you want to talk about it?
Alex
not really?
Alex
i just want to forget about it
Jordan
okay
Jordan
i'm here if you change your mind
Alex
i know
Alex
thank you for being so understanding
Alex
a lot of people wouldn't be
Jordan
well i'm not a lot of people
Monday, May 12
[9
47 AM]
Jordan
you left early
Alex
yeah had an early site visit
Alex
didn't want to wake you
Jordan
would've been fine
Jordan
are we good?
Alex
of course. why wouldn't we be?
Jordan
i don't know. last night was just weird
Alex
i know. i'm sorry
Alex
i promise it's over with them
Alex
like completely over
Jordan
okay
Jordan
meeting at 11 but free after. want to do lunch?
Alex
can't today, completely slammed
Alex
dinner?
Jordan
yeah. your place?
Alex
perfect
Tuesday, May 13
[7
23 AM]
Jordan
you were up late working
Alex
yeah this project is killing me
Alex
sorry i was distracted last night
Jordan
it's fine. you seemed stressed
Alex
i am
Alex
not about us
Alex
just work stuff
Jordan
anything i can help with?
Alex
just you being here helps
Jordan
i'm here til thursday
Alex
i know
Alex
which is also stressing me out
Jordan
what do you mean
Alex
just that you're leaving again
Alex
and i don't know when i'll see you next
Jordan
probably june? we have post-production starting but i can come back
Alex
okay
Alex
sorry i'm being weird
Jordan
you're not being weird
Jordan
we should probably talk about what this is though
Alex
i know
Alex
tonight?
Jordan
yeah
[10
47 PM]
Jordan
so
Alex
so
Jordan
that went well i think?
Alex
[Reacted '😅' to "that went well i think?"]
Alex
i mean we didn't kill each other
Jordan
you really thought i was going to be mad about you wanting to keep things casual?
Alex
i don't know. i thought you wanted something more serious
Jordan
i do. eventually.
Jordan
but i also get that the distance makes things complicated
Jordan
and that you just got out of something
Alex
it's been six months
Jordan
you told me last night they showed up because they want to get back together
Alex
they do
Alex
i don't
Jordan
you seemed pretty torn up about it
Alex
because it was unexpected and messy
Alex
not because i have feelings for them
Jordan
okay
Alex
do you believe me?
Jordan
i want to
Alex
jordan
Jordan
i just don't want to be the person you're talking to while you figure out if you want to be with someone else
Alex
you're not
Alex
i promise you're not
Jordan
okay
Jordan
i believe you
Alex
thank you
Alex
come here
Wednesday, May 14
[2
15 PM]
Jordan
had a good morning :)
Alex
me too
Alex
you still have that dinner with your producer friend tonight right?
Jordan
yeah at 7. you can come if you want?
Alex
nah it's your work thing
Alex
i'll see you after
Jordan
you sure?
Alex
positive
Alex
might be good for us to have a night apart anyway
Alex
like a practice run for when you leave
Jordan
that's bleak
Alex
but practical
Jordan
i guess
[11
33 PM]
Jordan
you awake?
[11
51 PM]
Alex
yeah
Jordan
dinner ran late. heading back now
Alex
cool
Alex
i'm actually pretty tired though
Jordan
oh
Jordan
do you want me to just go to the hotel?
Alex
maybe yeah
Alex
is that okay?
Jordan
yeah of course
Jordan
everything good?
Alex
yeah just tired
Alex
i'll see you tomorrow before you go
Jordan
okay
Jordan
goodnight
Alex
night
Thursday, May 15
[8
15 AM]
Jordan
flight's at 2
Jordan
want to get breakfast?
[9
47 AM]
Alex
sorry just seeing this
Alex
can't do breakfast, got called to a site emergency
Alex
can i drop by before you head to the airport?
Jordan
yeah i'm here til 12
[11
52 AM]
Alex
leaving now
Jordan
okay
[12
33 PM]
Jordan
i have to leave for the airport
Alex
i'm so sorry
Alex
traffic was insane
Jordan
it's fine
Alex
it's not fine. i wanted to see you
Jordan
me too
Jordan
i'll call you when i land
Alex
okay
Alex
have a safe flight
[6
47 PM]
Jordan
landed
[7
23 PM]
Alex
how was it?
Jordan
fine
Jordan
alex what's going on
Alex
what do you mean
Jordan
you've been weird since tuesday
Jordan
did i do something?
Alex
no
Alex
you didn't do anything wrong
Jordan
then what is it
Alex
i don't know
Alex
i think i'm just scared
Jordan
of what?
Alex
of this. of getting hurt.
Alex
my ex really fucked me up and i thought i was over it but seeing them just brought everything back
Jordan
so what does that mean for us
Alex
i don't know
Alex
i need some time to think
Jordan
alex
Alex
i'm sorry
Alex
i really like you
Alex
i just need to figure some stuff out
Jordan
okay
Jordan
take your time i guess
Saturday, May 17
[11
33 PM]
Jordan
still thinking?
Monday, May 19
[4
15 PM]
Alex
hey
Alex
i'm sorry i've been silent
Jordan
it's fine
Alex
it's not
Alex
you deserve better than me disappearing
Jordan
so don't disappear
Alex
i'm trying not to
Alex
i just got in my head about everything
Alex
the distance, my ex showing up, work being insane
Alex
it all felt like too much
Jordan
and now?
Alex
still feels like too much honestly
Alex
but i don't want to lose you
Jordan
you're not going to lose me
Jordan
but alex you have to actually talk to me
Jordan
you can't just shut down every time things get hard
Alex
i know
Alex
i'm sorry
Alex
i'm really bad at this
Jordan
at what?
Alex
at being vulnerable. at letting people in.
Alex
at not sabotaging good things
Jordan
i'm not asking you to be perfect
Jordan
i'm just asking you to try
Alex
i am trying
Alex
that's why i'm telling you this instead of just ghosting
Jordan
is that supposed to make me feel better?
Alex
no. i don't know.
Alex
fuck
Alex
can i call you?
Jordan
yeah
Wednesday, May 21
[9
52 AM]
Alex
thank you for talking last night
Jordan
of course
Jordan
feeling better?
Alex
a little
Alex
i talked to my therapist about everything this morning
Jordan
yeah?
Alex
yeah. she said i'm doing the thing where i push people away when i'm scared
Jordan
the thing?
Alex
my pattern apparently
Alex
meet someone great, get scared, sabotage it
Jordan
am i someone great?
Alex
[Reacted '❤️' to "am i someone great?"]
Alex
yeah you really are
Jordan
you're pretty great too
Jordan
when you're not being self-destructive
Alex
fair
Alex
i'm going to be better about communicating
Alex
i promise
Jordan
i'll believe it when i see it
Alex
that's fair too
Friday, May 23
[6
47 PM]
Jordan
[Image: A rooftop bar at sunset overlooking LA]
Jordan
making a drink recipe i learned at that place we went to in brooklyn
Alex
[Reacted '🥺' to image]
Alex
i wish i was there
Jordan
come visit
Alex
i actually have been looking at flights
Jordan
wait really?
Alex
yeah. i have some vacation days
Alex
was thinking early june?
Jordan
alex that would be amazing
Alex
let me figure out work stuff but yeah
Alex
i want to see where you live
Alex
meet your friends
Alex
all of it
Jordan
all of it?
Alex
all of it
Tuesday, May 27
[2
15 PM]
Alex
so i booked a flight
Jordan
WHAT
Jordan
when??
Alex
june 6-10
Alex
too soon?
Jordan
no definitely not too soon
Jordan
this is really happening?
Alex
it's really happening
Alex
you're sure you want me invading your space?
Jordan
alex i literally cannot wait
Thursday, May 29
[11
23 PM]
Jordan
random thought
Alex
i'm listening
Jordan
i'm really happy
Jordan
like genuinely happy
Jordan
and i know we're figuring things out and it's complicated
Jordan
but i just wanted you to know that
Alex
jordan
Jordan
yeah?
Alex
i'm really happy too
Alex
scared as fuck but happy
Jordan
we can be both
Alex
yeah
Alex
we can be both
Jordan
see you in 8 days
Alex
can't wait
Saturday, May 31
[4
47 PM]
Alex
my ex texted me again
Jordan
what did they say
Alex
asking if we can talk
Alex
said they made a mistake and want another chance
Jordan
oh
Jordan
what did you say?
Alex
nothing yet
Alex
wanted to talk to you first
Jordan
alex
Jordan
you don't need my permission to respond to your ex
Alex
i know
Alex
but i respect you too much to not tell you this stuff
Jordan
okay
Jordan
so what are you going to say?
Alex
that i'm seeing someone
Alex
and i'm happy
Alex
and that i hope they find that too but it's not going to be with me
Jordan
you're seeing someone?
Alex
yeah
Alex
you
Alex
if that's okay to call it that
Jordan
more than okay
Alex
good
Alex
because i don't want there to be any confusion
Alex
i'm all in on this
Alex
on you
Jordan
even with the distance?
Alex
even with the distance
Alex
we'll figure it out
Monday, June 2
[10
15 AM]
Jordan
4 more days
Alex
who's counting
Jordan
me. obsessively.
Alex
same
Alex
i made a whole list of places to take you
Jordan
show me
Alex
it's a surprise
Jordan
i hate surprises
Alex
you'll like these ones
Wednesday, June 4
[3
33 PM]
Jordan
so something came up
Alex
okay...
Jordan
the production company wants to meet
Jordan
about potentially funding the whole project
Alex
that's amazing!! when?
Jordan
thursday
Alex
oh
Jordan
yeah
Alex
so you can't come?
Jordan
i don't know. i'm trying to reschedule
Jordan
but they said thursday is the only day they can do before they leave for cannes
Alex
jordan take the meeting
Jordan
but you already have your flight
Alex
i'll change it
Alex
this is your career
Alex
it's important
Jordan
so are you
Alex
i know
Alex
but this is a huge opportunity
Alex
you can't pass it up because of me
Jordan
i'm not passing it up BECAUSE of you
Jordan
i'm just. i don't want to disappoint you.
Alex
you could never disappoint me
Alex
seriously take the meeting
Alex
i'll come the next weekend
Jordan
you're sure?
Alex
positive
Alex
i'm so proud of you
Jordan
thank you
Jordan
i'm sorry
Alex
don't be sorry
Alex
this is good news
Thursday, June 5
[11
47 AM]
Jordan
meeting's in an hour
Jordan
i'm freaking out
Alex
you're going to crush it
Alex
they'd be idiots not to fund it
Jordan
i hope you're right
Alex
i'm always right
Alex
about you anyway
Jordan
wish you were here
Alex
me too
Alex
call me after?
Jordan
definitely
[4
52 PM]
Jordan
ALEX
Alex
TELL ME EVERYTHING
Jordan
THEY SAID YES
Alex
HOLY SHIT
Jordan
FULL FUNDING
Jordan
THEY WANT TO FAST TRACK PRE-PRODUCTION
Alex
JORDAN OH MY GOD
Alex
I'M SO FUCKING PROUD OF YOU
Jordan
i couldn't have done this without you
Alex
you absolutely could have
Alex
but i'm glad i got to be part of it
Jordan
when can you come here
Alex
actually about that
Jordan
oh no
Alex
no it's not bad
Alex
i already changed my flight to next weekend
Alex
but i was thinking
Jordan
thinking what
Alex
what if i came for longer?
Jordan
how much longer?
Alex
like. a month?
Jordan
alex
Alex
i can work remotely
Alex
and you're going to be busy with pre-production
Alex
but i want to be there for it
Alex
if you want me there
Jordan
if i want you there?
Jordan
alex i want nothing more
Alex
yeah?
Jordan
yeah
Alex
okay then
Alex
i'm coming
Friday, June 6
[9
15 AM]
Alex
told my boss i'm working remotely for june
Alex
she was surprisingly cool about it
Jordan
because you're good at your job
Alex
because she's trying a new remote work policy and i'm the guinea pig
Jordan
either way you're coming
Alex
either way i'm coming
Alex
flight's at 6pm tomorrow
Jordan
i'll pick you up
Alex
you don't have to
Jordan
i want to
Alex
okay
Alex
jordan?
Jordan
yeah?
Alex
i'm really doing this
Jordan
you're really doing this
Alex
kind of terrified
Jordan
me too
Alex
but good terrified?
Jordan
the best kind